"The DJ world is the corniest f--ing group of people," he says, shaking his head. "We're not celebrities, we're not famous for any good reason. We're just ... really lame. Besides people like Dillon Francis, who makes fun of the whole thing, or Calvin Harris, it's a sinking ship. It's a really lame culture. I'm sad that I'm part of it, but I play the game.
Making Music on His Terms
"When we put out a song with Beyoncé, cool, we'll get a fee, we'll get some [publishing] splits, but Beyoncé is going to make a billion dollars touring it. If I make a song and it's my song, like 'Lean On,' we're going to make money off the synchs, the Spotify and we get to headline festivals on it. That's the model I want to explore."
Taking Music Around the Globe
For Diplo, playing locales like Cuba, or Pakistan, or even Kingston, Jamaica -- places that big American acts just never go and where it actually costs him money to do the show -- is key. "In Pakistan, people were in tears. I'm not like the Red Cross, but the kids in Pakistan and Cuba want this. It feels like I'm doing something that's important -- I'm helping them create something that wasn't there before."
Collaborating With Justin Bieber
"Justin came to Vegas one night when I played 'Where Are U Now,' " he says. "He had just turned 21, and he was like, 'Yo, man, I want to thank you, because this is the first time I've ever had adults clap for me. This is like a big deal.' You think about that, and yeah, he was kind of like a clown on a pedestal. People just like picked on him."
On Bernie Sanders
"If Hillary [Clinton] was the only candidate, I don't think anyone would care about politics at all," he says.
"[Donald] Trump is actually exciting in a lot of ways, too. But Bernie Sanders is amazing to me because so many young kids learned about politics [through him]. And it was all because of the Internet. The traditional media never gave Bernie Sanders the time of day. But he went viral the same way hip-hop and new dances go viral. And I'm part of that culture."
The Power of Snapchat
"Snapchat's the place where people are hearing and learning about culture," he says. "This hat I'm wearing?" -- he points to his head -- "It's not even real, it's just a demo. But I put a picture with this hat on Snapchat, and kids are asking, 'Where can I get that?' And if, like, Kendall Jenner puts our music on there? Sales go up immediately. It's crazy."
'The Anarchy of It All'
Diplo insists that he's growing up. But that doesn't mean he's done stirring things up on Twitter, like when he accused David Guetta of ripping off DJ Snake on a recent single. "Guetta's always been so f--ing nice to me, to be honest," says Diplo. "But I'm just into the anarchy of it all."