Kanye West‘s highly anticipated sit-down with David Letterman for his My Next Guest Needs No Introduction series finally hit Netflix Friday (May 31). It’s been quite some time since fans have hear from Ye in an interview setting, with West laying low from media obligations and taking a break from Twitter.
Here are seven things we learned from Kanye’s candid interview with David Letterman. Catch the entire episode on Netflix.
1. Kanye sees YEEZY as the Hermès of sportswear.
West has long been a trendsetter in hip-hop when it comes to fashion. As he ventures deeper into his forties, Kanye has seemed to settle into cozier athleisure as the prime aesthetic for YEEZY. Letterman brings up West’s love for French designer Hermès while going through Kanye’s closet inside his Calabasas mansion. “I look at myself as the great, great, great, granddad of YEEZY. And this is the Hermès of sportswear,” says Kanye.
Letterman then stumbles upon a graphic t-shirts featuring a photo of Donda West wearing a shirt that reads, “Kanye West’s mom.” Another is emblazoned with a photo of the late Eazy-E. Yeezy refers to the garments as “spirit shirts.” “These are like a window to the soul,” he says. “When I wear this Eazy-E t-shirt, I do feel the spirit of Eazy-E. When I have to go deal with some business meetings, Eazy-E was an original black business shark.”
2. He learned that his parents divorced much earlier than he first thought.
In most accounts of Kanye’s life, it’s reported that West’s parents, Donda and Ray, divorced when he was three, which resulted in him moving from Atlanta to Chicago with his mother. When detailing his upbringing to Letterman, West says he found out after Donda’s passing that actually wasn’t the case. “I thought I was three when they got divorced, but then I was watching a Behind the Music and she was like, ‘I got divorced right after I had the baby,'” Kanye says, with a laugh.
3. His favorite Drake lyrics are from “Crew Love.”
The Late Show host attempts to compare the lyrical approaches of Kanye and Jay-Z. West responds by saying that he believes they’re “both pretty self-centered in our music.” He then brings up one of his favorite Drake lyrics without using his name.
“An artist which I will not mention because I’m not allowed to mention him or any of his family members has a line, well, we had a little beef last year,” West says. “He has this line that I love that says, ‘I told my story and made history,’ like ‘made his story’ and ‘made history.'”
4. West feels liberals bully Donald Trump supporters.
West says that Trump supporters shouldn’t be ashamed of their political opinions. He says that many liberals “bully” those in Trump’s corner. “This is my thing with Trump,” he says. “We don’t have to feel the same way but we have the right to feel what we feel and we have the right to have a conversation — A dialogue, not a diatribe, about it.”
5. He hasn’t taken any medication in the eight months prior to the interview.
On his 2018 album Ye, Kanye refers to his bi-polar diagnosis as his “superpower.” During the interview, West and Letterman remain on opposite sides of the fence when it came to their feelings on medication and the pharmaceutical industry in America. The Chicago native admits that he hasn’t taken any meds in the eight months leading up to his appearance on the show.
“I feel a heightened connection with the universe when I’m ramping up,” he says. “It is a health issue that has a strong stigma on it, and people are allowed to say anything about it and discriminate in any way. This is like a sprained brain, it’s like having a sprained ankle. If someone has a sprained ankle, you’re not going to push on him more. With us, once our brain gets on the point of spraining, people do everything to make it worse. They do everything to make it worse.”
In addition to the medication causing weight gain, which led to him choosing to get liposuction, Yeezy says that meds interrupt the “genius” within his creative process when it comes to music. “Yeah, that’s just the reality. If you guys want these crazy ideas, crazy stages, crazy music, and this crazy way of thinking, there’s a chance it might come from a crazy person,” West says.
6. He came up with the idea for Sunday Service while in the hospital.
Part of the interview is conducted at a Sunday Service session in Burbank, Calif. The 72-year-old Letterman says he was blown away, adding that he wished that his family could’ve been there. Kanye tells Letterman that he came up with the idea of creating some sort of church during his 2016 hospitalization. “When I went to the hospital a couple years ago, I was just writing down all these ideas, like beautiful mind, and one of the ideas was to do a church,” says Kanye. He adds that Sunday Service’s final goal will be achieved when he sees “world peace.”
7. Kanye credits Andy Kaufman as an inspiration for his testy media relations.
Letterman becomes very interested when West brings up Andy Kaufman and his brief time as a wrestler. Back in his late-night days, Letterman often invited the performance artist on prior to his passing in 1984. Kanye credits Kaufman for his combative nature with the media. “He gave me courage,” he says. “How you deal with the media. I’d far rather be an Andy Kaufman than the majority of the way people are letting the media pushing them around. I’m in front of the joke, the joke is on everyone else.”