The first rule of Taylor Swift‘s squad: You do not talk about Taylor Swift’s squad. Or, you know, go for it — just expect a lot of headlines.
Lorde learned this the hard way when a recent interview question she answered was misconstrued as her denouncing Swift and her circle of friends. As the “Green Light” singer later tweeted, she was actually referring to not hanging out with her “idols,” specifically David Bowie and Patti Smith, and did not address Swift at all. Furthermore, when the interviewer brought up the “squad”: “Forgive me for the mild eyeroll i popped when it was brought up as if we’re all blood members of a secret club,” Lorde wrote in her Twitter message. (A full explanation of the non-drama can be found here.)
Lorde is just the most recent celebrity to address her position in Swift’s group of friends — a constant hot topic since the squad’s unofficial formation back in 2015. And although the unwritten first rule of the squad seems to be in place for a good reason (you never know when you’ll “f— up an interview question,” as Lorde tweeted), the New Zealand singer isn’t the only one to break the cardinal rule.
Below are nine other members who have given their own take about being in the coveted group.
In a 2015 interview with Refinery29, Goulding opened up about her “strong” friend group. “I love surrounding myself with these women who are incredibly strong and incredibly passionate about what they do,” she said. “I think in life you should surround yourself with really incredible people.” She even addressed whether they actually use the infamous moniker: “I’m sure we’ve referred to it as a ‘squad.'”
2. Karlie Kloss
In a 2016 Women’s Health cover story, the Victoria’s Secret model also trumpeted the importance of “having strong friends.” “Having a support group is everything,” she said. “It’s so important to have friends that you can rely on, that you can lean on no matter what you’re going through — good times and bad. … I feel really lucky I’ve met a lot of amazing, amazing women along the way and I hope that they’ll be in my life forever.”
3. Hailee Steinfeld
The “Love Myself” singer addressed her position among Swift’s group of friends in a cover story for Seventeen, appearing to dispel their omnipresent image: “I think people think we spend a lot more time together than we actually do!” The Pitch Perfect 2 star did throw in that she considered Swift “amazing, though.”
4. Cara Delevingne
The model and actress has openly spoken about her friendship with Swift, even sharing videos of her hanging out with Swift’s cats. In one notable instance from a 2016 interview with James Corden on The Late Late Show With James Corden, Corden jokingly asks Delevingne why he wasn’t invited to Swift’s Fourth of July party, a squad staple. Delevingne name-dropped some familiar squad staples, including Haim and Ruby Rose, while describing a prank she pulled on the sisters. At the end of her story, Corden exclaimed, “Don’t be telling me the squad is broken up over a prank!” after Delevingne joked that the Haim sisters were no longer talking to her because of it.
Remember that whole first rule of the squad? Yeah, the Haim sisters take that very, very seriously. In an interview from just last month, they bristled at multiple questions about Swift from the U.K.’s Evening Standard. When asked what they learned from touring with her, Alana Haim said, “Each tour, you always take something from.” Would they ever collaborate with her? “The door is always open,” Alana said. And finally, do they ever feel the need to defend Swift on social media? “We can’t speak for anyone but ourselves,” Esme Haim chimed in. Got it!
6. Ed Sheeran
Being the lone male member of Swift’s squad has its perks. As Sheeran told Rolling Stone earlier this year about touring with Swift back in 2011: “Taylor’s world is celebrity. I was this 22-year-old awkward British kid going on tour with the biggest artist in America, who has all these famous mates. It was very easy. … I would often find myself in situations just kind of waking up and looking over and being like, ‘How the f— did that happen?'”
7. Lena Dunham
While the Girls mastermind has been involved in some very public squad activities, from appearing onstage with a pack of Victoria’s Secret models during Swift’s 1989 Tour to co-starring in the “Bad Blood” video, she told Howard Stern in February that she prefers to see Swift solo. “I’m more of a one-on-one hanger,” she said. “A big group hang is not my specialty.”
The Empire actress explained how she first met Swift and said the squad actually does spend time a lot of time together, in this 2015 ASOS interview. “We all hang out,” Serayah said. “We get together and we go eat and go to late-night cafes. I think people think it’s this celebrity gathering, but it’s just a bunch of girls, hanging out.”
9. Gigi Hadid
OK, so maybe that “first rule of the squad” thing isn’t true after all. According to a 2015 interview with Elle Canada, Hadid says the squad talks about, well, the squad “a lot.” “It’s a conversation we often have. We want to be the generation and the group of friends known for supporting each other. ‘Squad Goals’ is a big social-media thing right now, and that’s what we want to inspire in other groups of friends — to be proud of the power you all have when you’re together, which can be amplified so much by each person. That’s what has been cool about everyone’s willingness to be there for each other.” She also said the squad wanted to get rid of the “cattiness” of previous generations of female celebrities. “That was cool and it worked for them and they were great. We just want to be the new generation.”