Taylor Swift has lived much of her life in the public eye, and she’s developed a thick skin — or thick bark, as she puts it — because of it.
In a conversation with CBS Sunday Morning‘s Tracy Smith that aired on Sunday (Aug. 25), Swift touched on re-recording her back catalog, which she’s “absolutely” considering, her “intense” relationship with media, her family’s support of her career from the beginning and more. (She shared that her parents and brother were fully onboard with her aspirations, and the whole family moved to Nashville once she signed a development deal with RCA Records. She then joked that she makes up for the move with “lots of presents” for her brother, especially.)
She also addressed how the tumultuous time surrounding the recording and release of her last album, 2017’s Reputation, shifted her relationship with the media and fame in general.
“I had a lot of very, very intense fears that I was trying to deal with,” she answered when Smith asked whether or not it was hard to “keep quiet” — and refrain from responding to criticism or controversies — throughout the Reputation period.
“Everything that wasn’t my quiet, cozy, wonderful world that I had carved out for myself, that I had been living in for years… I think it happens to people; I think that people become stifled by things that happened in their lives, and that was just something that I went through.”
Now that she’s released Lover, she’s ready to share it with the world and to share her thoughts on it, too — even if people twist her words.
“I’m used to it; I’ve got a much better threshold now,” she says of her ability to take criticism and misinterpretations in stride. When Smith asks her if she’s got thicker skin, she laughs. “I just got a bark on me now. Like an old tree. I’m basically just an oak tree.”