Former vice president Joe Biden paid a visit to Stephen Colbert’s Late Show on Monday (Nov. 13) to discuss the current state of affairs in the White House and, again, tackle Colbert’s questioning on whether he’ll ever run for president. Biden, who dropped by while on a press tour for his new book Promise Me, Dad, told Colbert that although he initially vowed to give President Trump an “even shot,” Trump’s response to the devastating rally in Charlottesville changed his perspective.
“Charlottesville for me was a moment where I thought silence would be complicity,” he said, noting that there are certain things “you just can’t remain silent” about. “To not have an outright, flat condemnation of that…I thought the silence was deafening,” Biden added. The former vp stated that the events in Charlottesville triggered him to speak out against Trump and condemn the alt-right. “I find it reprehensible,” he said.
When asked by Colbert how Trump’s time in the Oval Office might influence the “future of presidencies” and what behavior is normalized, Biden didn’t mince his words. “I think, God-willing, it will go down as the single exception in American history,” he said, telling Colbert that he believes all Americans, regardless of political party, are now worried about “the stability of the Republic.”
He added, “There’s an attack on our system. I think people are worried. It goes beyond President Trump, in my view.” Biden noted that had Hillary Clinton won the 2016 presidential election, “we wouldn’t be having this conversation. We’d have a good president. We’d have a president who understands the role of the presidency. She would’ve been somebody who would in fact weave that fabric.”
Colbert told Biden that the country is in need of a “unifier,” and asked him if he’d consider running for president in the foreseeable future. Biden, whose son Beau died of brain cancer in 2015, told the host he wasn’t ready to make such a “fundamental change” in his life since his family’s loss.
“I want to focus on Beau and my grandkids. We’ll see where it goes,” he said.
This article originally appeared on THR.com.