Kim Gordon Explains Her Contentious Lana Del Rey Comments to Bret Easton Ellis

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Kim Gordon attends a special event hosted by 303 Gallery celebrating Music for Inversions at The New York Edition Hotel on June 24, 2015 in New York City.

Early in the year, before Kim Gordon released her memoir Girl In a Band, an excerpt was revealed -- that never made the final edition -- where Gordon was severely critical of Lana Del Rey.

She wrote, “Today we have someone like Lana Del Rey, who doesn’t even know what feminism is, who believes women can do whatever they want, which in her world, tilts toward self-destruction, whether it’s sleeping with gross old men or getting gang raped by bikers… Naturally, it’s just a persona. If she really truly believes it’s beautiful when young musicians go out on a hot flame of drugs and depression, why doesn’t she just off herself?”

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Gordon recently spoke with author Bret Easton Ellis for his podcast. Ellis returns to the issue of Lana Del Rey and her image. Gordon explains how her comments were in response to Frances Bean Cobain, who Gordon says she “felt weirdly protective of.” Cobain had tweeted at LDR, “The death of young musicians isn’t something to romanticize. I’ll never know my father because he died young and it becomes a desirable feat because people like you think it’s ‘cool.’”

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Gordon clarifies, ”I was basically just trying to point out it was a persona, and offhandedly said what I said just kind of laughingly… I suppose I could have articulated the whole thing a lot better because I really just wanted to talk about persona and I was just thinking about what is the next leap after Madonna, who was not nihilistic. To me, all this stuff all stems from consumerist culture.”

She adds, “If I were to read her work as, ‘Oh, she is being nihilistic’ -- that’s interesting. But I’ve really only seen that one video of her hanging around with these older biker dudes. If the music was more interesting, I would like it. But actually it’s really conventional, and that to me is the bottom line, the music. That’s why it’s popular because it appeals to a broad basis.”

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Listen to the audio between Bret Eason Ellis and Kim Gordon here