The two first worked together when Mars was in a band called Vendetta, just prior to him joining Mötley Crüe in early 1981. Wagener recorded the Vendetta album then went back his home country of Germany for awhile, eventually settling outside of Nashville.
"That's when Mötley came together," recalls Mars. "I did a thing with Vendetta, but they were breaking up. [Accept vocalist] Udo [Dirkschneider] saw me play when he was in Accept. They were gonna get rid of one of their guitar players. But Nikki had called me and Mötley was just starting. I hadn't even thrown out the [band] name yet. I was in a three-way thing. I went over and played with Nikki. I liked the way he played and wrote, and I liked Tommy's drumming. This was it. Just like the movie. There was another guitar player there, and I had to tell him to beat it."
When asked what his new music is like, Mars is hesitant to specifically define it, but he wants to do something more modern. "Not like today's music, which to me is pretty much pop metal and more growly guys," he explains. "It's all cool and it's all good, and I'm just searching for something that's just a little different than that. I [also] don't want to be living in '85. It's hard to reinvent yourself, but that's what I'm doing now. I'm trying to reinvent the way that I approach music writing. I've got a lot of crap, and I've got a lot of good stuff too." He adds jokingly, "I hope I don't lose too many fans."
The guitarist hopes to release his solo album around the beginning of the year, and it will include vocals. Mars says he has a singer who "can be a lot of different voices, and it's pretty amazing. I go, 'I want this kind of voice here,' and he'll pull it straight off." For now, Mars simply says his vocalist's name is Jacob, and he is also working with an orchestrator and arranger to help him with certain parts in his songs.
"The funny thing about [this is] Michael did my very first [band] recording when he got here from Germany," says Mars. "And now he's doing my last record. Pretty ironic."
Drummer Tommy Lee has spent two years working on a solo record that he calls "fucking insane." The album title he is contemplating for the moment is Trans Genres "because one side is all female energy and the other side of the record is all male," he says. "It's very eclectic, and I think everyone's gonna really enjoy it. That's what I've been excited about lately. What a labor of love." The album is recorded and mixed with a planned release date of March 2020.
While his Methods of Mayhem project was more on the hip-hop side, Lee's solo material has been varied in terms of exploring multiple musical styles on one album. The drummer says this new album will be very similar to something like Tommyland and vary from track to track. He jokes that people will say, "What the fuck is this guy thinking?" He immediately references the genres of EDM, hip-hop and screamo. "There's a Prince cover called 'When You Were Mine' that we slowed down and is fucking insane," enthuses Lee. "There's so much, dude. So much."
"There's literally every single different genre that you could imagine," continues Lee. "That's why I want to call it Trans Genres because it's literally all over the place, which I love. It's my favorite thing. I love swishing it up from track to track. But this is literally a whole side of one kind of eclectic thing and one side of the other kind of eclectic thing. I like records like that. I don't like records that sound like it's pretty much the same thing."
A wide variety of guest artists will appear on Lee's next album. "There's so many different artists on it," he declares. "There are these super hard girls." Some of the women include South African rapper Push Push, PLYA singer Julia ("a woman with a beautiful voice") and a singer called Ellie ("who has another gorgeous voice"). There's also rap battlist Shotty Horroh ("he pretty much puts everyone in their fucking place, he's the champion of that"), Lukas Rossi of Rock Star: Supernova fame and U.K. hip-hop/dubstep group Foreign Beggars.
Bassist and main Crüe lyricist Nikki Sixx is going in a different direction. He's adapting his best-selling memoir The Heroin Diaries into a musical which is set to launch in April 2020. Someone who was known for bucking authority and engaging in endless debauchery back in the '80s, Sixx is now advocating for awareness of opioid abuse and the dangers of excess in partnership with many institutions, and in a different format than what fans would expect.
"I guess everybody would say you've made it when you've gone to Broadway," says Sixx. "Besides talking about New York City proper and the drug addiction in that city, in that state, we are focusing more right now on a touring project. This musical will tour, and the idea is to involve government locally and nationally, working with the surgeon general. I'm working with a lot of people. [We want] to really raise the money through the music, raise awareness, and show people what addiction looks like and what recovery looks like. And take that city by city by city and raising awareness and having conversations and getting localized government involved." Company partners in this musical endeavor include Faces & Voices, Live Nation and iHeart.
Sixx expects kickback for a project he feels so passionate about, particularly from people who actually need prescription painkillers for certain ailments or injuries.
"I've been getting a lot of people saying, 'It's fantastic that you're talking about this epidemic, but some of them need this. Some of us have chronic pain, and if you take it away from us, Nikki, we're going to live in pain'," explains Sixx. "That's really not the message at all. We're talking about the epidemic. We're talking about the pharmaceutical companies. We're talking about over-prescribing when they're not needed. That's not been monitored strongly enough so that people who go in with a broken foot end up two years later strung out on Oxys or whatever they get. And then what do they do about that? They don't know how to get out of that, and it's a downward spiral. You know where they go? They go to the street and buy junk. They buy smack, they buy Persian heroin, they shoot it up, they fucking overdose, they die, they get AIDS, they get Hep C. We want to bring awareness just to the conversation, but we're not trying to erase pain medication."
The bassist reveals that he recently had right shoulder surgery, and it was "a hairy surgery." Sixx had to use pain medication for about seven days "to get through the worst of it," he says. "But it's the same thing when you say we should have better gun laws, legislation reform, let's talk about that. People are like, 'You're not going to take my guns away.' We're not saying that. We're saying with all these shootings, with all this access to military weaponry, we need to have better laws in place. It's so polarizing. You have to sit in that uncomfortable position, whether it's in social media or in a meeting, and just understand that there are two sides to the coin. We're trying to find the best solution."