Farrell: I remember speaking with my lawyer, Owen Sloan, who was supposedly the best lawyer to do this. He had been getting people huge deals, and he got us a huge deal. We were talking about publishing, and he said, “Do you know how the splits work?” “No I don't.” He showed me how the splits generally work, and how you change the split anyway you want. Different bands do it differently. Some bands — you'd be surprised — their members get no publishing.
After learning about this, I said in my mind, “Well, okay, I'm writing lyrics, melody, and music, but I don't want to be one of those bands where the other guys get no publishing.” Some of the members do write songs, contribute to the songs. And the other members are great, so I want everybody to have some as well, even if they didn't write anything. But then it gets very funny, because the idea of them not writing anything, that's not real. Let’s just say I wrote all of a song. Once I get into rehearsal, they're writing, they're being creative, so they should get some too.
So that's how I factored the songs. I said, “By the way, if anybody wants to write an entire song, we'll sit down and we'll all listen to it. If we all decide it's great, we'll record that one.” I was not telling anybody they couldn't write songs, but this was my band.
Avery: I don't know that I could say that things were ever the same really after that. That was definitely a dispute. It was mediated by [former Warner Bros. president] Lenny Waronker, and we were brought into the halls of power to have them adjudicate the dispute because Perry wanted a large percentage. I was saying, “I think we should all have the same.” Then we wound up at sort of a compromise, but we did technically break up. I think for a day or two we were not a band. We were not going to be a band anymore, and [then the record] company brought us in.
Jerden: I was pulling in to the studio one day, and they were in a car pulling out. There were tears in their eyes. And I said, “What's up?” And they said the band broke up. I was the right guy for this job, believe me, because I've been to war and was battle-hardened. The reason those guys got together as a band in the first place is going to keep them together. They understand each other. They wanted to do the music. They wanted to do the album.
Avery: To be fair, I could see how he wanted more than an equal split, certainly. And where we wound up was, we gave him twice as much as any other member, and then we split what was left amongst the rest of us. That was consistent with Perry always going forward to this day. When it comes to money and stuff like that, he's pretty aggressively self-interested.
I remember famously Dave played one of our shows after that and put on a t-shirt that said “12%” or something, because that was the amount that was going to be left for him in Perry's system. So it left some resentment, for sure.
Navarro: It definitely drove a wedge between [Perry] and the three of us. If one guy is saying that he is more important than the others, that's going to drive a wedge. The three of us felt insulted, but it ultimately got worked out. That wedge that happened really came across in a really great way live. As much as what was going on wasn't fun, I believe that it made our shows much more exciting. You're watching four guys with the same goal and the same passion and in the same organization doing the same thing at the same time, loving what they're doing and at the same time hating what they're doing. That kind of energy on stage really came across. We were just in completely different head spaces that weren't attuned to one another, and I think that our live shows were some of the best.