Can Ballads by Lady Gaga & Camila Cabello Cut Through on Pop Radio? Talking 'Shallow' & 'Consequences' on the Chart Beat Podcast

Lady Gaga & Camila Cabello
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Lady Gaga & Camila Cabello

Ally Reid of Fly 92.3 discusses format trends.

Welcome to the Billboard Chart Beat Podcast, where each week co-hosts Gary Trust and Trevor Anderson, from the Billboard charts department, discuss why what's on the charts … is on the charts, while also looking at current chart action in a historical context for even greater insights.

This week, Gary and Trevor cover all the action on the Billboard Hot 100 and Billboard 200, including Maroon 5, Travis Scott, Post Malone, Swae Lee and more, plus a trip around the charts for a pair debuting K-pop collaborations by Dua Lipa and BLACKPINK and Steve Aoki and BTS, plus new No. 1s for Mumford & Sons and Ella Mai.

Plus, WFLY (Fly 92.3) Albany, New York, program director Ally Reid guests to discuss the current influx of ballads at pop radio, as Camila Cabello's "Consequences" (No. 26), Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper's "Shallow" (No. 34) and Dean Lewis' "Be Alright" (No. 36) are all scaling Billboard's Pop Songs airplay chart.

Could the current national mood be playing into listeners' acceptance of slower, more soothing songs? "Absolutely," Reid says. "This is, no matter where you stand, a really tumultuous time for so many reasons. For some people who look at radio as a respite from the day, some of these songs are very comforting. So, there could be, 100 percent, social elements that have people feeling these songs in a special way."

(Gary might sneak in a little celebration of the Red Sox' World Series win, too.)

Enjoy the latest Billboard Chart Beat Podcast and check back for additional upcoming episodes with artists, label executives, radio programmers and personalities, songwriters, producers and more. And, to receive every episode automatically in your inbox, subscribe to (and rate) the Billboard Chart Beat Podcast on iTunes! Plus, the Billboard Chart Beat Podcast is now available on an expanded range of platforms! You can listen on Acast, Spotify, iTunes, Google Play, Overcast, PocketCast, Podbean, Stitcher and TuneIn.


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