Louis Messina, Taylor Swift's Longtime Touring Promoter, on George Strait's Vegas Residency and the Occasional Need to 'Smack Somebody Around'
As the exclusive promoter for Taylor Swift, George Strait, Kenny Chesney and more, Louis Messina has pulled off what might be the greatest second act in live-music history. The son of a New Orleans boxing promoter, Messina cut his teeth in the Big Easy's rough-and-tumble music scene before being called to Houston by his friend and mentor Allen Becker, with whom he co-founded PACE Concerts in 1975. Messina quickly became one of the live industry's stars, promoting the biggest acts of the day (Bruce Springsteen, Van Halen, U2, Fleetwood Mac and others) and launching or helming major tour concepts like Ozzfest, Texxas Jam, Monsters of Rock and the George Strait Country Music Festival. Along the way, he also played a key role in the rise of outdoor amphitheaters, which indirectly led to the consolidation of promoters (and their real estate holdings) that reshaped the business at the turn of the millennium.
In fact, PACE was among the companies gobbled up by that consolidation -- in 1998 it was purchased for $130 million by SFX, which was soon bought by Clear Channel and eventually became Live Nation -- and that's where Messina's next phase began. Frustrated by Clear Channel's post-consolidation disorganization, he partnered with AEG to form The Messina Group in 2001 and began forging a new career in country music. He set aside his run-and-gun promoter days for long-term, national deals with major acts like Strait, Swift, Chesney (who has sold some 15 million tickets with Messina), Eric Church and Ed Sheeran -- the latter four of whom are completing or in the midst of touring.
"After I left Clear Channel, I said I only wanted to work for artists that want to work with me," says Messina, 67. "And the artists that want to work with me, I'd kill for them." It's a relationship that has paid off handsomely for all involved. So far in 2015, Messina's 155 shows have grossed nearly $290 million and sold almost 3.3 million tickets, according to Billboard Boxscore -- Swift alone accounts for $152.6 million from her first 50 shows (the U.S. leg wraps in Tampa, Fla., on Halloween night), and Church hit the 500,000-ticket mark on his first-ever arena tour.
Now based in Austin with his 21 -- person staff, the married father of six caught up with Billboard from Sin City, minutes after a press conference wrapped announcing Strait's upcoming engagement at the city's new Las Vegas Arena.
Is Strait's forthcoming stint in Las Vegas a residency?
I wouldn't call it a residency; George is doing an exclusive worldwide engagement. We announced a couple of weekends [April 22-23 and Sept. 9-10, 2016] and we'll see how it goes. George said he still wants to play shows but he's not going to tour, so we thought this was the perfect thing to do: play a new arena and be part of the grand opening. Vegas is such a destination town -- George Strait can be the destination. I joked with him, "You're not going on tour, but we're putting your fans on tour."
How is promoting Taylor Swift as a pop artist different from promoting her as a country act?
The principles stay the same, the bar just gets higher and higher. Taylor always has been Taylor. She started out in the country format, but she never has been the girl with the straw hat on: There's country, there's pop, and there's Taylor Swift. Now, when she plays early stuff live, it could be on , and half the stuff on that album, if she wanted to put a twang in it, it could be on a country album. Kenny does wear a straw hat and is also a rock 'n' roll show, and so is Eric. When I first started doing country music, my whole idea was to take a rock 'n' roll mentality to Nashville: filling stadiums with George Strait, doing things differently.
Taylor has had many special guests on her tour -- who coordinates that?
Taylor does everything -- she's got a team, but she's the one making the phone calls. I don't even know who's playing -- "Oh, really? They're here?" She's a walking sizzle reel.
Church made a pretty significant step up with his Outsiders arena tour and its elaborate set. What was your first reaction to it?
When I first saw the stage, it was in the round, and I was like, "Are you crazy?" Now I'm like, "What do you want to do, Eric?" The artists I work with are all individuals, and I guess I'm just smart enough to follow their lead. I wish I could take some credit.
Chesney just finished his biggest tour yet -- $114 million in gross, 1.3 million in attendance -- which is unusual for a stadium-level veteran. How do you explain it?
Kenny has created this traveling event -- he built the "No Shoes Nation." He created a brand that his fans follow, and we always give his fans a great show. Look who we had [support acts included Church, Jason Aldean and Brantley Gilbert]. Kenny doesn't mind sharing the spotlight, because at the end of the night, it's his spotlight.
How is your relationship with AEG?
Great. I'm partners with them, but I work for the artists. I also do a lot of shows with Live Nation. I don't want to think anybody's my competition, because I'm going to do the best for the artists I work for. I am semi-independent, but I have a relationship with AEG where we're co-promoters on everything I do.
With so many acts on the road, how do you decide which show or tour to be on?
Let's just say I've got a lot of [frequent flier] miles. Eric started his tour in August of last year, and I'm sure I haven't had five weekends off since. This is the most I've traveled in my life. There were days at PACE when I was a "turn the page" promoter, because I had so many shows in the amphitheaters I didn't know who I was promoting. But [in 2015], having four major tours out, pretty much at the same time -- my routing looked like windshield wipers: one side of the country one day, the other side the next. But I try to cover as many shows as possible, because I still believe I'm the promoter. I work for them; if they're there, I feel like I should be there, too.
Even with a strong team in place?
I'm a believer in empowerment: The night of the show, I turn the keys over to whoever's show it is:Bridget [Bauer] with Eric and George, Rome [McMahon] and Kate [McMahon] with Kenny, [Mike]Dugan with Taylor, my son [Louis Messina Jr.] with Ed. But if they need me to smack somebody around, that's what I'll do. I'll give you a good analogy: I'm a relief pitcher. My bus is the bullpen. And if somebody needs me to throw strikes, I'm there. But mostly, I'm there for entertainment value. I really don't have anything to do the night of the show, to be honest with you. (Laughs.)
A version of this article was first published in the Oct. 17 issue of Billboard.