Ask Billboard: What Did Other Duos Do?

Pet Shop Boys

With Macklemore & Ryan Lewis becoming the first duo to top the Hot 100 on its first two attempts, how did other twosomes start their chart careers? Readers check in on that and more.

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WHAT DID OTHER DUOS DO?

Hi Gary,

You wrote an interesting article about the chart beginnings of successful duos, but I was wondering if you could please tell me about the chart starts of four successful husband-and-wife duos: Les Paul and Mary Ford, Sonny & Cher, Captain & Tennille, and Marilyn McCoo & Billy Davis, Jr. 

And speaking of Cher, her mother, Georgia Holt, just entered the Heatseekers Albums chart (during the week leading up to Mother’s Day!) Which other mothers and daughters have both charted on Billboard rankings?

I also just realized that Cher's son, Elijah Allman, was with rock band Deadsy, which charted on the Billboard 200 with two albums. With Holt now charting, this makes three generations of the same family who have appeared on Billboard surveys. Has that happened before?

Thanks,

Blair Buchta
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada


Hi Blair,

With Macklemore & Ryan Lewis having become the first duo to take their first two Hot 100 singles to No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100, the spotlight is shining on duos. Let's pan it over to your suggestions.

Paul and Ford placed two entries on the Hot 100: "Put a Ring on My Finger" reached No. 32 in 1958 and "Jura (I Swear I Love You)" peaked at No. 37 in 1961.

Sonny & Cher arrived with the classic "I Got You Babe," which reigned for three weeks in 1965. While they never notched another No. 1, follow-up "Baby Don't Go" rose to No. 8 and the pair added three more top 10s through 1972.

Captain & Tennille likewise launched with a No. 1, "Love Will Keep Us Together," which ruled the Hot 100 for four weeks in 1975. They stumbled with follow-up "Por Amos Viviremos" (No. 49), but then posted four consecutive top five hits. In 1980, they dominated again with "Do That to Me One More Time."

And, McCoo & Davis, Jr. dented the Hot 100 with the No. 91-peaking "I Hope We Get to Love in Time" before "You Don't Have to Be a Star (To Be in My Show)" led for a week in January 1977. "Your Love" (No. 15, 1977) was their only other top 40 duet.

As Keith Caulfield noted, it's Cher and Cher's mother alike now owning Billboard chart histories, as Holt enters Heatseekers Albums at No. 13 (and Top Country Albums at No. 43) with "Honky Tonk Woman." The set from the 86-years-young Holt was recorded in 1980 and had remained unreleased.

They're not the first mother-and-daughter to both appear on Billboard charts, however. There are surely others, but the list includes:

Linda Davis, who topped Hot Country Songs in 1993 with the Reba McEntire duet "Does He Love You," and Hillary Scott, of Lady Antebellum

Country icon Loretta Lynn and her twin daughters, the Lynns (Peggy and Patsy), which spent time on Hot Country Songs and Top Country Albums in 1997-98

Carole King (no introduction needed, right?) and Louise Goffin, whose "Remember (Walking in the Sand)" reached No. 43 on the Hot 100 in 1979

Michele Phillips, who visited the Hot 100 16 times with the Mamas & the Papas (including spending three weeks at No. 1 in 1966 with "Monday, Monday") and daughter Chynna Phillips, who logged three No. 1s with Wilson Phillips in 1990-91

Mariah Carey and her mom Patricia Carey, who teamed for "O Come All Ye Faithful"/"Hallelujah Chorus"; the track climbed to No. 7 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs Bubbling Under chart in 2011.



And, of course, Naomi and Wynonna Judd, who as the Judds, rung up 14 Hot Country Songs No. 1s in 1984-89, while Wynonna added four solo in 1992-96

Oh, one more musical mother and daughter: Beyonce and Blue Ivy Carter, the latter of whom waited a whole few hours after being born before cooing, which dad Jay-Z recorded and turned into the song "Glory." Debuting on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs the week of Jan. 21, 2012 (billed as Jay-Z featuring B.I.C.), the newborn Carter quickly claimed the mark as the youngest artist ever to appear on a Billboard chart.

As for three generations of families gracing Billboard rankings, the first family of the feat would have to be the Williams, with Hank becoming one of the most influential figures in country music before Hank Jr. and Hank III followed the legend onto Billboard's country charts.

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WHAT DID OTHER, OTHER DUOS DO?

@gthot20 why no mention of the Pet Shop Boys and Erasure?

Pierre Oitmann @Audioist


@gthot20 the sublime Eurythmics?

Stephen Scott @stephenaxlscott


Hi Pierre and Stephen,

Three great duos that gave us some of the best music of the '80s and beyond.



Pet Shop Boys started with the Hot 100 No. 1 "West End Girls," which was on top on this date 27 years ago (!) "Opportunities (Let's Make Lots of Money)" then reached No. 10 and they tallied three more top 10s through 1988. While they haven't hit the Hot 100 since 1991, they've remained one of the top acts on Dance/Club Play Songs. With 10 No. 1s on the latter list (through 2009), Pet Shop Boys have scored the most leaders among duos in the chart's nearly 37-year history.

Erasure similarly sampled pop success (three top 20 Hot 100 hits in 1988-94), while shining even brighter on Dance/Club Play Songs, where the pair has collected 17 top 10s (through last year), including two No. 1s.

Eurythmics, meanwhile, burst in with 1983's Hot 100 No. 1 "Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)" before follow-up "Love Is a Stranger" peaked at No. 23. They added two more top 10s, while Dave Stewart and Annie Lennox both subsequently hit the top 40 separately.

Two more notable duos: per Billboard.com-menter JR35, the Righteous Brothers topped the Hot 100 twice, with "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' " (1965) and "(You're My) Soul and Inspiration" (1966), although the songs were their third and 12th, of their 23 chart entries, respectively. They're likely known best to later generations for "Unchained Melody," which, while hitting No. 4 in 1965, returned to reach No. 13 (as a newly recorded version rose to No. 19) in 1990 when it was famously featured in the blockbuster "Ghost."



And, Tears for Fears. Having researched all the duos to top the Hot 100 at least twice to make sure that Macklemore & Lewis were the first twosome to reign on their first two tries, I was unpleasantly surprised to hear them on CBS-FM while driving home this weekend, unpleasantly only because I feared (ha!) that I'd missed them. After a very long few more minutes behind the wheel, I raced to my Whitburn book, relieved to confirm that while they broke through with the No. 1s "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" and "Shout" in 1985, they'd first made inroads with "Changes," which reached No. 73 in 1983.


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HOT 100 MUSE-INGS

Hi Gary,

"Madness" by Muse recently spent 29 weeks on the Hot 100 but never made the top 40. Is that a record? If not, which song spent the most weeks on the Hot 100 without making the top 40?

Thank you,

Don Helms
Norman, Oklahoma


Hi Don,

While the lengthy stay for "Madness" without it climbing above No. 45 is notable, three other titles have spent more time on the chart without reaching the top 40.

Here are the 10 songs to log the most weeks on the chart without entering Casey Kasem territory:

Chart Weeks, Peak, Title, Artist, Peak Year
34 / No. 45, "Breathe (2 AM)," Anna Nalick, 2006
34 / No. 45, "The Cup of Life (The Official Song of the World Cup, France '98)," Ricky Martin, 1999
31 / No. 47, "Video," India.Arie, 2001



29 / No. 45, "Madness," Muse, 2013
29 / No. 42, "Sexual (Li Da Di)," Amber, 2000
27 / No. 76, "The Rockafeller Skank," Fatboy Slim, 2000
27 / No. 42, "No Tengo Dinero," Los Umbrellos, 1997
26 / No. 44, "If You Leave Me Now," Jaya, 1990
25 / No. 47, "Brighter Than the Sun," Colbie Caillat, 2012
25 / No. 44, "Time Is Love," Josh Turner, 2012


How did many of the songs above, including "Madness," spend so much time on the Hot 100 but never ascend to the top 40? Often, by scoring impressive success in one genre (or in only sales or airplay, but not both), but not crossing over to a wide enough pop audience.

"Madness" set the record for the longest command (19 weeks) of the Alternative Songs airplay chart and reached a more-than-respectable No. 11 on Adult Pop Songs and No. 23 on Pop Songs. But, by peaking at No. 40 on the all-format Radio Songs chart and No. 29 on Digital Songs, the track was never able to crash the No. 40 barrier on the Hot 100.

(FYI, Muse has already hit the Hot 100's top 40: "Uprising" rose to No. 37 in 2009, fueled by a 17-week run at No. 1 on Alternative Songs.)


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PERSONAL CHARTS

Dear Gary,

Here's my personal chart for this week. Enjoy!

Last Week/This Week
2/1, "Can't Hold Us," Macklemore & Ryan Lewis featuring Ray Dalton
1/2, "Just Give Me A Reason," P!nk featuring Nate Ruess
3/3, "Stay," Rihanna featuring Mikky Ekko
4/4, "Thrift Shop," Macklemore & Ryan Lewis featuring Wanz
6/5, "I Love It," Icona Pop featuring Charli XCX
5/6, "Feel This Moment," Pitbull featuring Christina Aguilera
7/7, "Heart Attack," Demi Lovato
10/8, "Come & Get It," Selena Gomez
9/9, "The Way," Ariana Grande featuring Mac Miller
8/10, "My Songs Know What You Did In The Dark (Light 'Em Up)," Fall Out Boy
11/11, "Daylight," Maroon 5



14/12, "Alive," Krewella
12/13, "Next to Me," Emeli Sandé
13/14, "Scream & Shout," will.i.am featuring Britney Spears
15/15, "Sweet Nothing," Calvin Harris featuring Florence Welch
16/16, "Pour It Up," Rihanna
18/17, "Here's to Never Growing Up," Avril Lavigne
--/18, "The Other Side," Jason Derülo
20/19, "I Need Your Love," Calvin Harris featuring Ellie Goulding
19/20, "Loveeeeeee Song," Rihanna Featuring Future


Sincerely,

Cody Kisel
Olyphant, Pennsylvania


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BELINDA'S BACK

Yes! Belinda Carlisle rightly picks "Summer Rain" as her favorite solo recording.

Popservations @Popservations

Yup, while it's great that we can rank any artists' biggest Hot 100 hits based on actual chart performance, it's pretty cool, too, when we ask acts to chart their favorites based simply on their opinions.

Carlisle graciously doing so in last week's Chart Beat Q&A led to many fans likewise ranking their favorite songs of hers on her Facebook page.

Also a longtime superfan of Carlisle's, I have to weigh in, too! Here's how I'm charting my favorite songs that she's recorded, solo and with the Go-Go's (with her melodic new single, "Sun," just missing the cut):

Tie 10, "Vacation"
Tie 10, "Summer Rain"
9, "Mad About You"
8, "World Without You"
7, "Circle in the Sand"
6, "In Too Deep"
5, "Heaven Is a Place on Earth"
4, "Runaway Horses"
3, "Vision of You"
2, "Do You Feel Like I Feel?"



1, "Leave a Light On"


And, while we're at it, here are my 10 favorite songs by fellow Go-Go Jane Wiedlin:

10, "Modern Romance"
9, "Our Lips Are Sealed" (featuring her famous solo vocal on the bridge)
8, "Blue Kiss"
7, "99 Ways"
6, "Tangled"
5, "Rush Hour"
4, "Guardian Angel"
3, "Rain on Me"
2, "Give!"



1, "Inside a Dream"


Plus, Go-Go Charlotte Caffey was in the band the Graces (along with Meredith Brooks, who, in 1997, would soar to No. 2 on the Hot 100 with "Bitch"). The Graces hit No. 56 in 1989 with "Lay Down Your Arms" (which Carlisle subsequently recorded on her 1993 album "Real").



I was always partial, however, to follow-up single, and the title cut from the Graces' lone album, "Perfect View," a nice slice of hopefully-not-forgotten early '90s pop.